{"id":90,"date":"2010-11-20T00:11:54","date_gmt":"2010-11-20T00:11:54","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.totallyguitars.com\/acousticsnapshots\/?p=90"},"modified":"2020-06-04T17:21:23","modified_gmt":"2020-06-04T17:21:23","slug":"flip-out-in-san-francisco","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/totallyguitars.com\/blog\/friends\/tommyemmanuelinterviews\/flip-out-in-san-francisco\/","title":{"rendered":"Flip Out In San Francisco"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\t<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Flip Out In San Francisco\" width=\"1140\" height=\"641\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/qWKgSXI8aUk?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><br \/>\nMatt: Neil and I were just chatting about this song.<br \/>\nNeil: Now, we\u2019re trying to\u2026 I was trying to\u2026 Matt wanna see if he can learn it but before tonight\u2019s show.<br \/>\nMatt: Yeah, the like and what have good about 10 minutes (music playing). And this song is called \u201cI Still Can\u2019t Say Goodbye\u201d (music playing).<br \/>\nNeil: So again, his Capo at 2nd fret playing a bunch of normal chords in the key of G.<br \/>\nMatt: Right. Did you bring the Capo?<br \/>\nNeil: Yes somewhere around but I have one here.<br \/>\nMatt: So tell us a bit about the pattern you were mentioning. This song, by the way guys, if you don\u2019t know the history, it\u2019s actually a Chet Atkins\u2019 song and Chet Atkins is Tommy Emmanuel\u2019s hero, and if you don\u2019t know much about Tommy Emmanuel, you know that Chet Atkins bestowed the title of Masterfinger\u2026<br \/>\nNeil: Certified\u2026<br \/>\nMatt: Certified guitar fingerpicker?<br \/>\nNeil: No. It was CGP, certified guitar player. So he used those initials after his name now like\u2026<br \/>\nMatt: Right, sir.<br \/>\nNeil: Like DDS.<br \/>\nMatt: Right! (Laughs). And so that\u2019s\u2026 he\u2019s one of three that ever got the thing from him directly. I\u2019ll have to look that up, so\u2026<br \/>\nNeil: Muriel Anderson might\u2019ve got one too, didn\u2019t she?<br \/>\nMatt: Not directly from Chet.<br \/>\nNeil: Okay.<br \/>\nMatt: Yeah. So, Tommy got it direct in him.<br \/>\nNeil: Oh, I see. So he got united by Chat, huh?<br \/>\nMatt: Right. So, tell us about\u2026 you were saying that it\u2019s very similar to House of the Rising Sun\u2026<br \/>\nNeil: Yeah. I wanna play it without a capo because he\u2019s playing in the key of G (Strumming the guitar), and it\u2019s really just G4-G to D with F# in the bass to Cs\u2026 Gs, Ds, and Cs more or less and what I said the picking though, it\u2019s just a 4 note Arpeggio (Strumming the guitar). Something like that would work fine. Now, Chet did it a little bit differently and Tommy did it a little randomly\u2026<br \/>\nMatt: Right.<br \/>\nNeil: But if you just play the 4 note Arpeggio going (Strumming the guitar) bass, index finger on 3rd string, the other 2 fingers on the top strings, and then back to the index finger (Strumming the guitar). And I\u2019ve simplified the chorus a little bit just making a Gs, Ds, and Cs. There were some that had some moving bass notes (Strumming the guitar). Something like that.<br \/>\nMatt: Let me\u2026<br \/>\nNeil: Okay try it.<br \/>\nMattB: \u2018Coz I\u2019m really probably gonna struggle. So, you\u2019re saying D but I need to do something.<br \/>\nNeil: Just G, start with G, and then thumb on the bass note, yup.<br \/>\nMatt: (Strumming the guitar).<br \/>\nNeil: Yeah. Then just go to the same thing on a D chord.<br \/>\nMatt: (Strumming the guitar).<br \/>\nNeil: And the bass note for D would be the 4th string with thumb, wait, so you\u2019re thumb hit it at 4th string there, right.<br \/>\nMatt: (Strumming the guitar).<br \/>\nNeil: And then, yeah, again. And with your index finger though.<br \/>\nMatt: (Strumming the guitar).<br \/>\nNeil: Then just D, yeah. And make sure\u2026 yeah, good.<br \/>\nMatt: (Strumming the guitar).<br \/>\nNeil: Again, and with your finger, not your thumb.<br \/>\nMatt: I think, alright\u2026 because it\u2019s the end bottom four<br \/>\nNeil: Yeah.<br \/>\nMatt: Okay\u2026<br \/>\nNeil: So G chord was good.<br \/>\nMatt: (Strumming the guitar).<br \/>\nNeil: Then the D.<br \/>\nYeah, wait! Put your fingers to\u2026 yeah! Then just go to C and do the same thing. But the bass would be the 5th string. Yeah. Now, you really need to work on right hand position again. Your wrist has to bend so that more this way, so your thumb stays out in front of your fingers, you know, we talked about that yeah. So you gotta be working on that, yeah. And not let this happen, okay?<br \/>\nMatt: See what happens when I don\u2019t pick it up for a week.<br \/>\nNeil: Okay, so, yeah. So keep your thumb out in front your fingers.<br \/>\nMatt: (Strumming the guitar).<br \/>\nNeil: That\u2019s better, yeah. Now when it goes to the\u2026 Now, your whole hand could be a little bit lower too.<br \/>\nMatt: (Strumming the guitar).<br \/>\nNeil: Yeah. Good. That\u2019s much better.<br \/>\nMatt: (Strumming the guitar). What\u2019s next?<br \/>\nNeil: And then I think back to D again. I\u2019ll have to go hear it again.<br \/>\nMatt: (Strumming the guitar). Then?<br \/>\nNeil: Back to G.<br \/>\nMatt: (Strumming the guitar).<br \/>\nNeil: And that\u2019s D again. Bass for the D, yeah.<br \/>\nMatt: (Strumming the guitar).<br \/>\nNeil: Now something different happened here. It may be an E minor or B minor. I have to go back and listen to it again. I can\u2019t remember\u2026 yeah. Yeah, may be something like that, and then back\u2026 Oh! And then the C. Here\u2019s what would happen. (Strumming the guitar), yeah. And then the 3rd line must be the same as the first, probably G-D-C. (Strumming the guitar) Yeah and probably back to D again, and then probably C-D. (Strumming the guitar). Yeah. It\u2019s just a normal chord progression with 1, 4, and 5. (Strumming the guitar) Yeah, something like that. What I have to do is to write down as I\u2019m hearing it.<br \/>\nMatt: There\u2019s a B\u2026<br \/>\nNeil: Yeah, I\u2019m not sure if that\u2019s very accurate\u2026<br \/>\nMatt: Now of course if this had the capo on the 2nd, what would I be doing with that\u2026?<br \/>\nNeil: Well you still\u2026 Yeah, so that G\u2026 Yeah, so yeah. So what that does is that you wouldn\u2019t think about it any differently. That was just put really in the key of A. So the capo would be here.<br \/>\nMatt: And I say you were\u2026<br \/>\nNeil: Oh yeah..<br \/>\nMatt: When you\u2019ve been practicing, you had your\u2026 you were doing that and you just stretched.<br \/>\nNeil: Yeah. Don\u2019t , that\u2019s okay. Don\u2019t try this at home.<br \/>\nMatt: But, but that\u2019s pretty incredible because I\u2026 I could not do that in a million years. That\u2019s\u2026<br \/>\nNeil: There you go! That\u2019s it! Yeah. Look at that, it\u2019s happened.<br \/>\nMatt: (Strumming the guitar) Okay\u2026 okay. Come on you cant do it. Come on! I know you can do it fingers! (Strumming the guitar).<br \/>\nNeil: But again, there\u2019s no heroic value in doing that.<br \/>\nMatt: But there is! (laughs)<br \/>\nNeil: No there isn\u2019t. That\u2019s not how Tommy did.<br \/>\nMatt: And then?<br \/>\nNeil: And then you go to D.<br \/>\nMatt: Oh my goodness!<br \/>\nNeil: And then you put an F# in the base with your other finger. Oh yeah, wait! You\u2019re out of fingers. Never mind! (Laughs)<br \/>\nMatt: How does that happen?<br \/>\nNeil: No don\u2019t worry about.<br \/>\nMatt: (Laughs). These thumbs meant to come over up somewhere (laughs)<br \/>\nNeil: Yeah, that\u2019s it! Yeah. That\u2019s why this becomes a don\u2019t try this at home kids.<br \/>\nMatt: Oh my goodness! Now, you see how you need to have meats the size of Gorillaz. So, but what a pretty song and\u2026<br \/>\nNeil: Really nice, yeah.<br \/>\nMatt: And, so it\u2019s about his father and blah, blah and\u2026 So I\u2019d like to hear it tonight because, you know, it\u2019d be great to figure out how to do it.<br \/>\nNeil: I think so.<br \/>\nMatt: So we\u2019ll catch up again a bit more.<br \/>\nNeil: We better get something.<br \/>\nMatt: Okay, we were just looking at the tabs online and basically Neil doesn\u2019t trust them also. His way of dealing with it is just listen to the song.<br \/>\n(Music playing)<br \/>\nNeil: Yeah. So they missed a few things in that, yeah because\u2026<br \/>\nMatt: He does a thing like this almost Romeo and Juliet with this roll down or whatever you call that thing. (Strumming the guitar) Dah&#8230; dah\u2026 dah\u2026 Yeah. So, what do you call that?<br \/>\nNeil: It\u2019s just almost scale run. It\u2019s really just a fill.<br \/>\nMatt: A fill?<br \/>\nNeil: Yeah.<br \/>\nMatt: Okay.<br \/>\nNeil: You got to fill in there. (Strumming the guitar)<br \/>\nMatt: So, those little things that just keeps this song the texture and depth.<br \/>\n(Strumming the guitar)<br \/>\nNeil: So, something like that again. It\u2019s\u2026 I need better audio quality to write it our for sure. So, do something about it right now\u2026<br \/>\nMatt: No.<br \/>\nNeil: But that tab was about 80% right. He just missed a few things. G with B on the bass at one point where they though it was B minor, but I got\u2026 that\u2019s right, you hear it again. And, (Strumming the guitar). Oh! And then that bridge (Strumming the guitar). Dooo\u2026 Doooo.. It was D-C\u2026 It was B7 to E minor there some place too in that third line.<br \/>\nMatt: You make it sound like the bass is stepping down there too. That\u2019s kinda deliberate, right?<br \/>\nNeil: Uhum.<br \/>\nMatt: Yeah.<br \/>\nNeil: From (Strumming the guitar) Oh! Because last time the Ds don\u2019t have sharp in the bass, so he\u2019s doing this (Strumming the guitar) rather than going for G chord to regular D. So, it\u2019s an F# as the bass&#8230;<br \/>\nMatt: And just\u2026 Right. It\u2019s just had that extra little bit of zing, yeah.<br \/>\nNeil: Yeah (Strumming the guitar).<br \/>\nMatt: Okay.<br \/>\nNeil: So his Ds were played like that and sometimes he does the same with D7 (Strumming the guitar).<br \/>\nMatt: So, just to wrap this up. \u2018Coz obviously, we\u2019re gonna eat and then we\u2019re gonna buy and watch him. What the fingerpicking again is all the same pretty much all the way through?<br \/>\nNeil: Well, it can be like you point it out, I\u2019m not sure if we had this one when we\u2019re filming is that\u2026 you can just strum it. (Strumming the guitar).<br \/>\nMatt: Yeah it was it on there, yep.<br \/>\nNeil: Doo\u2026 Doo\u2026 Doo\u2026 So, it really just a campfire song, and you can take any song and make a nice fingerpicking accompaniment to it and add to it, yesterday could\u2019ve been\u2026 (Strumming the guitar). But it wasn\u2019t.<br \/>\nMatt: (Laughs)<br \/>\nNeil: (Strumming the guitar).<br \/>\nMattB: So we might cut this out and then we\u2019re gonna have some more stuff for you should you get it there.<br \/>\nNeil: Hello! Here we go.<br \/>\nMatt: Yeah we\u2019re gonna put some more\u2026<br \/>\nNeil: Especially more of this kinda ear training things. You know? Like what I\u2019d like to do with this does not tell you exactly what\u2019s going on with it. Now, you know I just gave you some a bunch of few hints. You know? Things to listen for&#8230;<br \/>\nMatt: I\u2019m just not that advanced to be how to figure that shit out.<br \/>\nNeil: Maybe, you were just telling that you were starting to hear how certain things resolved and how this bass note works this bass, you know? So\u2026<br \/>\nMatt: But I don\u2019t know about the chords. I think that actually, if you wouldn\u2019t mind spending 30 seconds on that. I mean, I don\u2019t know what the chords are when I hear them. I have a vague idea sometimes.<br \/>\nNeil: You know what the hint on that is find the bass notes\u2026 (Strumming the guitar) find the bass note that is playing on first beat of each thing because picking out one note at a time is not usually too difficult if you can isolate the bass.<br \/>\nMatt: Right.<br \/>\nNeil: I can\u2026<br \/>\nMatt: And also helps to play a little bit everyday which I\u2019m still not doing.<br \/>\nNeil: Yeah.<br \/>\nMatt: (Laugh) But I\u2019m getting there. So, alright. So let\u2019s hook this up again tomorrow morning because we got some interesting stuff happening more. I wanna to tell you about that. 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